They're scared. I'm scared.

[beetiger]

I guess there's something positive about the fact that the President and the Pope, two major world leaders, feel like they have to talk about gay marriage. It means things are happening, and the conservative world is nervous. But it kind of kicks me out of the lazy mindset I have now and again, the mindset that says that we're nearly there on queer acceptance, and that church and state really are separated just like it says in the books.

I asked sythyry whether we could move to Canada soon. He reminded me that we're already married.

I actually have my ministerial credentials in NY now, through the Pagan Temple to which I belong. One of the dreams I have for my lifetime is to be able to officiate at a legal gay marriage here.

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[ahiruko.livejournal.com]

I hate polls -- but I'm still really scared that Gallup reported that the number of people who fully support gay rights in this country dropped from 60% in May to 48% last week.

I just don't understand why gay marriage is such a sticking point for some people ... it shows that, no matter how open and accepting they CLAIM to be, deep down they still don't accept gay relationships as legitimate.

[secanth.livejournal.com]

I'm waiting for the first court case...one where a couple gets married in Canada (Canadian marriages, as far as I know, are accepted here in the US), comes back, and is told they aren't married. The ramifications legally are mindboggling...and will affect all overseas marriages. The US is gonna have a problem saying it will accept only *certain kinds* of out-of-country marriages, me thinks.

[sapphire-d.livejournal.com]

Good morning, dear. :) I see that you're being affected by the same alarm clock that a lot of others are being woken up by. I figure that we've been asleep for way too long.

[melskunk.livejournal.com]

Move to Canada anyways! We could always use more radicals, it'll keep Alberta on its toes.

[kiala.livejournal.com]

When me and luminafaux get around to doing the whole marriage thing, we'll come to you =>

[postrodent.livejournal.com]

Bush is probably speaking his tiny little mind, altho Karl Rove may have pulled his string; the Prince of Darkness there may see this as a way to rally the support of the Christian Right at a time when Bush's presidency is in deep trouble. It's telling that although he couldn't quite say it, Bush clearly feels homosexuality is a sin in the eyes of the One True Religion.
Obviously, like everyone else on this thread, I disagree, and someone should remind W about that whole separation of church and state business -- he has a bad case of absent-mindedness on that topic. But apart from that, is stopping gay marriage really foremost on the mind of our President at this point, and if so, _why_? Is gay marriage more of a threat than Al Qaida? I feel compelled to quote Get Your War On's comments about "freedom fries" from earlier this year:
"It just proves that nobody is taking this shit seriously. We're about to go to war AGAIN! Would somebody please act like a fucking grown-up for once?! Get back to work managing our WARS!"

[chipuni.livejournal.com]

*softhug*

Thirty years ago, my marriage to misseli would have been illegal -- and, in many parts of the country, gotten me lynched.

Nowadays, it's not even mildly remarkable.

The same change will take place in American society. It'll be slow but steady.

You'll get your wish.

[read-alicia.livejournal.com]

Sigh... can somebody air the gender out of gay marriage and just say that anyone in a commited relationship can have it officially recogized? I really don't want to have to spend more energy to re-fight this battle once other genders, intersex, nongenders, and gender variants are recognized.

*waits a long time*

That should be enough to make Dubya's brain pop out though.

Erm...

[luminafaux.livejournal.com]

The opponents to same-sex marriage being afraid can be both a good thing and a bad thing.

Good thing would be...people who are afraid can make hasty/rash errors that end up getting them into deeper trouble. I am hoping Bush's decision to finally come off the fence and declare that he firmly and unshakably believes that marriage can only be between a man and a woman will be one of the solid mistakes that ends with him losing his re-election bid.

On the other paw, the bad thing would be that in an attempt to stop gay marriage from happening, they'll just dig up more hate. And you know how some very prejudiced people react to hate. Beatings/killings.

Yeah...gotta love how they 'love thy neighbor'...'love him with a tire iron until he don't move no more, Bubba! He's one o' dem dere queers.' If they pass an amendment and it stays through any challenges that are made on it, then this will no longer be a land of the free. Canada will take over that title (seems like it's gotten ahead of the US already a bit as it is).

[m0nkeygrl.livejournal.com]

I thought you'd like this Ozy and Millie strip. rain_luong really has a way of saying things perfectly!!