They're scared. I'm scared.

[beetiger]

I guess there's something positive about the fact that the President and the Pope, two major world leaders, feel like they have to talk about gay marriage. It means things are happening, and the conservative world is nervous. But it kind of kicks me out of the lazy mindset I have now and again, the mindset that says that we're nearly there on queer acceptance, and that church and state really are separated just like it says in the books.

I asked sythyry whether we could move to Canada soon. He reminded me that we're already married.

I actually have my ministerial credentials in NY now, through the Pagan Temple to which I belong. One of the dreams I have for my lifetime is to be able to officiate at a legal gay marriage here.

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[secanth.livejournal.com]

I'm waiting for the first court case...one where a couple gets married in Canada (Canadian marriages, as far as I know, are accepted here in the US), comes back, and is told they aren't married. The ramifications legally are mindboggling...and will affect all overseas marriages. The US is gonna have a problem saying it will accept only *certain kinds* of out-of-country marriages, me thinks.

[teardrop69.livejournal.com]

I would love to see this happen, although you might want to read this article, in particular the part that says:

In 1996, President Clinton signed the congressionally-enacted Defense of Marriage Act, Daschle noted, which denied federal recognition of same-sex marriages and allowed states to ignore same-sex unions licensed elsewhere.

This is complete crap. I want Dick Cheney for president. At least he's a dick who supports gay marriages, unlike the dick in the Oval Office right now.

[secanth.livejournal.com]

It will be interesting to see how it plays out in federal court, should it ever get there. (This in consideration of the the fact that several european countries allow it as well. Of course, I'm not sure how they deal with countries that allow multiple marriages either...) Wonder how that affects International Law/Tready provisions? Not being a lawyer of any stripe, that part I'm in the dark about.

[teardrop69.livejournal.com]

I would love to see the US bullied into complying on this issue. I doubt it will happen, but I'd like to see it.

What is gratifying is that although the numbers still say that those in favor of gay marriages are still under half, the fact that it's above 45% is AMAZING. It will take more time, but it's inevitible. I believe that it is, anyway.

[heron61.livejournal.com]

This already happens, polygamous marriages that are legal in some countries are not accepted in the US. Sadly there is an old precedent for this foolish nonsense. Gods we need an actual liberal for a president to help sort this sort of bigoted crap out. Unfortunately, all of the Democrats who have a chance are (at best) spineless pseudo-liberals like Clinton.